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Good Grief Travel
Conversations with people who went from one life to another — the reinventions, the breakthroughs, and the moment someone stopped saying “someday.”
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Episode 4 — Matt Savino: Seven Years in Bust Mode
“A trip that fell apart into the only thing he ever finished.”
Release Date: September 2026 · Conversation
He set out to drive to the bottom of the world, made it as far as an armed roadblock in Nicaragua, and has spent the seven years since telling himself he’ll finish next summer. A conversation about the trip that fell apart into the only thing he ever finished — a book about not getting there.
Episode 3 — Alison Gieschen
“The bravest chicken in the world.”
Release Date: September 3, 2026 · Conversation
At fourteen, Alison Gieschen was handed a plane ticket and told she was moving — that day. Four decades later she sold everything and sailed off around the world, this time on purpose. Eight years, fifty countries, and four oceans later, she calls herself the bravest chicken in the world. A conversation about the difference between the leaving that’s done to you and the leaving you choose — and what forty years between the two teaches you about fear.
Episode 2 — Paula Barnes: We’re Leaving in Four Weeks
“New city, new version of Paula.”
Release Date: August 27, 2026 · Conversation
Paula Barnes has moved eight times in twenty years — six countries, three stints in Hong Kong, every move for her husband’s job. She calls herself an expat chameleon: dragon boating in Hong Kong, mahjong in Kuala Lumpur, pickleball in Singapore. Now she runs Truly Expat Travel, taking small groups of women on the kind of trips you finally plan for yourself after two decades of waiting for someone else’s schedule to clear. This one goes to the arithmetic of a life like that — what it costs, what it gives back, and what her father would have made of it.
Episode 1 — Bill Mullen: Depth vs. Breadth
“He gave up the whole country to see it. I gave up seeing it to live in six blocks.”
Release Date: August 20, 2026 · Conversation
Bill Mullen gave three weeks’ notice, got on a plane, and never really came back. He’s seen Thailand by sailboat, motorcycle, and night train — the whole country, end to end. I moved here too, and learned six blocks of Bangkok well enough to call them home. Two ways to leave one life for another. We get into the trip that costs $15,000 and disappoints, the one that costs almost nothing and doesn’t, and what “someday” quietly charges you while you wait.
Been a guest in your own life lately?
This show is built on stories of reinvention — people who went from one place to another and came out changed. If you left something behind, started over, or finally stopped saying “someday,” I’d like to hear about it.
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COMING SOON
Mark Simon
“Building a hockey culture from scratch — in China.”
September 2026 · Conversation
COMING SOON
Chanoa Inez
“She arrived for a summer and left seven years later, someone else entirely.”
September 2026 · Conversation
COMING SOON
Dianna Germany
“When moving forward is really just spinning.”
September 2026 · Conversation
COMING SOON
Barry Maughan
“A continent crossed on a handshake and a hello.”
September 2026 · Conversation
COMING SOON
Chancellor K. Jackson
“The best year of his life is the year it broke him.”
September 2026 · Conversation
